If you think he should go seek some data; I have to ask: when do you start?
I haven't started. I'm just like you: I have no data. (Psst: just between you and me, we can go on like this for ever but I think you know we're wasting our time.)
It seems, however, it is actually that you are intolerant of peoples opinions.
We agree on something at least! As I I think I mentioned before, opinions alone are worthless. Would you like me to DM you my phone number? (Incidentally, I'll only DM you my phone number if you PROMISE that you're not any kind of councillor: OK?)
Re. the 'you're joking'. If my opinion is that I have fairies at the bottom of my garden is correct it's correct regardless of whether I actually have fairies at the bottom of my garden, right? We must talk! In fact, better than that, I'll buy you a pint. You name the place/time (preferably via a DM).
No. It's a school. It's not supposed to be 'beautiful', is it? Hopefully (and I have no inside information about this) it will be a good place to learn.
I hope so too - of not it will have been a collosal waste of money.
However, I do wonder if anyone really knows what makes a good place to learn. If they did surely we would be building lots of school to a pattern. As it is we seem to spend loads on architects and building expensive new designs in the hope they will work.
Re. the 'you're joking'. If my opinion is that I have fairies at the bottom of my garden is correct it's correct regardless of whether I actually have fairies at the bottom of my garden, right? We must talk! In fact, better than that, I'll buy you a pint. You name the place/time (preferably via a DM).
I wasn't being that deep.
In simplest terms: an opinion is something unsubstantiated, subjective if you like. A fact is a discreet piece of information, usually verifiable.
In other words, it is a fact Saturday follows Friday, but it is an opinion that Saturday is the best day of the week.
I hope so too - of not it will have been a collosal waste of money. However, I do wonder if anyone really knows what makes a good place to learn. If they did surely we would be building lots of school to a pattern. As it is we seem to spend loads on architects and building expensive new designs in the hope they will work.
Oxbridge must be a crap place(s) to get an education.
However, I do wonder if anyone really knows what makes a good place to learn. If they did surely we would be building lots of school to a pattern. As it is we seem to spend loads on architects and building expensive new designs in the hope they will work.
Very good points, I'd like to see answers to both of them. But as Greenham has reminded us all but until someone gets off their backsides and asks a few people other than forum members we won't know the answers to either of them. You'll only get subjective opinions here. Generally, like all web forums, you'll only get negative opinions.
"Building Schools for the Future" featured some notorious disasters (I'm not going to do all the work for you: you can type a few relevant search terms into Google as easily as I can). I'm sure we all fervently hope that St Barts won't be one of them.*
Does anyone else here listen to The Bugle podcast? It's often very funny, although that's obviously a subjective point and I can't back it up with any facts. I completely agree with the point in the most recent edition about the 'comments' sections on newspaper websites. Excellent stuff although it's fair to warn you that it's probably not to the taste of many of those who contribute to Newbury.net.
These are all excellent points Mr Goat. But I'm afraid I've got some bad news for you.
You aren't going to find answers to any of them here. (You knew that, right?)
When you say that you'd 'very much appreciate' some information what, exactly, are you prepared to do about it?
Have you taken the time to talk to your district councillor? If you have and they didn't (as you will, no doubt, have fully anticipated!) tell you what you wanted to hear, did you try submitting a Freedom of Information request (they really can be very effective you know).
Tell you what. If you've done neither of those things, why don't you just do them and report back here on what you find out? If you don't get any sensible answers that in itself will be useful to know. If you do we can have a discussion about this based on some actual facts.
Sorry old son, but I have taken the trouble to make sure my local councillors know exactly how I feel. I've also taken the trouble to disuss what was happening with a colleague of mine who works at the DoE. That was BEFORE the last election. So I for one was very pleased indeed when the Labour scheme throwing money at rebuilding schools was stopped in its tracks. Considered opinion is that no additional benefits will accrue to students studying at the schools so refurbished and they aren't ever likely to be beacon assets to a community.
A School's value in that regard depends on its reputation; that's more in the gift of the staff. However, just as the supermarket concentration on vouchers for schools - the Labour party hit upon what they felt would be an vote winner; hence the original very wasteful scheme.
I firmly believe it is the Governor's responsibility to properly care for the assets under their control so no state school should have been in the shocking state of decay some were. And yes, thats as an ex governor and yes thats as someone who made himself very unpopular with an LEA about this very subject
However, I was surprised by your comments - which you hadn't grounded or explained. I can't stand people who simply pump sunshine without any consideration or basis in fact.
Some have asked what would make a good environment for learning. The key requirement is presentation. In other words the tutor. We all remember teachers who inspired; it was part of their character. Second, another key need is the want on the part of the pupil - if that's absent forget it. So then, the physical environment comes down the list. However, just as well architected stations, shops etc, can assist with the inspiration, so can any well designed premise. A straightforward view is put by Bill Bryson in 'The Thunderbolt Kid' - where he mentions the high victorian architecture of his primary school was inspirational. Ironically, just the style we've just pulled down!
Have some respect you lot...Saint Bartholomews please! That's where we have gone wrong..loosing the Grammar school.. we used to have uniforms you know..now look at em! The start of the decline of discipline when the Education scheme was changed..mixed schools...next mixed toilets..Still I 'spose it would teach you that girls sit down to do it! I'm sorry...don't know where all this came from... Although I did not excell at the 'Grubbery', it taught me a few things that now sadly seem to be neglected. I think we all know what I mean..
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