MY OLD MUM WAS BORN IN NEWBURY IN 1910 - AT NO. 2 ROSEBERRY PLACE. SHE DIED AGED 96 YEARS, AND WE ARE ARRANGING TO BRING HER ASHES BACK HOME - TO ACORN RIDGE CEMETERY. WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO FIND EXACTLY WHERE SHE WAS BORN. IF ANYONE CAN HELP I WOULD BE SO GRATEFUL. (HER MAIDEN NAME WAS ALICE ANNE APPLEBY).
The best that we can manage on this from our research is that Roseberry Place was somewhere off of the Greenham Road in the area of the Blue Ball/Methodist Church. Obviously it existed in 1910, but seems to have disappeared by 1920.
Your grandfather was a Mr G Appleby who was a painter.
One interesting thing I found quite quickly was an excerpt from the 1911 census for 4 Roseberry Place. Assuming your Mother's family were living at No. 2 a year after her birth, and assuming that the convention of even numbers being next to even numbers was observed back then, then her next door neighbours were:
William Barrett Head 54 Widower Plumber Pangbourne, Berks Charles John Barrett Son 17 Single Printer (letter press) Newbury
Unfortunately, although the census informationwhich provided this is publicly available, it is not online. These details came from shared census information which somebody has looked up in Kew and then added to the shared site so there is no information for your family.
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Everyone is referring to Rosebery Place as if it was a street – it wasn’t/isn’t. It was a group of 9 cottages in Greenham Road, all owned in 1911 by Mrs E Marriner. I am pretty sure it is the L shaped block of cottages opposite the Blue Ball, between the old Primitive Methodist Chapel and the new (1980s?) office block (66 to 82 Greenham Rd) – chap I know used to live at No 80. If I’m right, 2 Rosebery Place is now 68 Greenham Road, one of the cottages not fronting on to Greenham Road. The online map on the WBC site should show it. In 1911 Mrs Marriner’s tenant at No 2 was J Appleby, the rent was £12 a year. In a 1913 directory the occupant is shown as G Appleby, a painter (think decorator rather than Monet). Nos 1 to 9 were contiguous, so No 4 was ‘next door but one’. They don’t seem to be there in 1906 – which wouldn’t be that surprising, they are typical of the cottages being built in that period.
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Knew I should have a map somewhere - but couldn't find it - gave up. Then I was just clearing up my laptop hard drive and there it was.
The portion marked 3406 is Rosebery Place. No 1 is the one furthest from Greenham Rd (1 to 4 being off the road) and No 9 next to the chapel. The other building to the right, behind Nos 8 & 9 is now sheds - probably held the communal privy when they were first built.
Is this an ordnance survey or a Newbury Town Council map, I wondered how the area numbers came about and what their significance was. The "new" link road ran right through the middle and plots no1744 and 1743, a pair of large semi detatched houses in Howard Road were demolished to make way for it, also breaking the direct link from that road to Greenham.
Is this an ordnance survey or a Newbury Town Council map, I wondered how the area numbers came about and what their significance was.
Obviously it is an Ordnance Survey map at heart - the colouring/numbering was done for the Inland Revenue. It is one of many maps that form the basis for the Valuation Survey of 1911 or thereabouts (it took a while). The survey was done in response to the introduction of a new tax on the increase in the value of land - in the Finance Act 1910 - the chancellor at the time was Lloyd George - hence the alternative name of the Lloyd George Domesday. The maps are held at the National Archives - their website has a guide to using the Valuation Survey records.
The Berkshire Record Office have a set of books compiled at the start of the survey and some incomplete maps (I guess ones that were part completed and then discarded).
The maps form the index to the Field Books (also at TNA) - the numbers on the map relate to entries in the Field Books. 3406 covers the nine houses in Rosebery place - lumped together on the map but covering entries 3406 to 3414 in the books.
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